can anyone confirm how intels
can anyone confirm how intels turbo works? I see people assuming that 4.3 is going to be all cores but I have seen it mentioned as 2 cores and 4.5 as preferred core (1 core). It also doesn’t seem to be a sustained number based on the description.

Some gamers are going to opt for intel just because. Already see a guy calling the 1800x a disappointment and planning to buy $150 more 7820k even tho its going to clock lower than a 7700k and hes calling the 1800x a disappointment because of a completely single threaded game.

edit: saw the information about the 1 or 2 cores for max turbo 3. Seems strange if all core turbo is 4.3. whats with the base clock then? Under what condition does it go to that clock? my experience with haswell was it went to the base clock with all cores active. Seems something to be investigated. If its all cores, how long will it stay at that frequency for all cores?

Someone posts a comment like
Someone posts a comment like this every time AMD releases a part that comes anywhere near Intel’s performance. And someone always says “vote with your wallet”, as if people are supposed to buy inferior products just to show “them” that “we don’t like your higher priced parts, even though they perform much better”. Give me a break! Yeah, buddy, it’s all a big conspiracy designed to fool you and make you part with your money. It’s called free enterprise and an efficient business model…

I also think the high end parts won’t be capped at 165W.
There is rumor of the Xeon processors going up to 205W

You’re foolish to believe

You're foolish to believe that if AMD were in the same position, that they would not have gone for similar margins. The purpose of a publicly traded company is to turn a profit for their shareholders. When a company has a corner on the market, they can and will increase their margins if the market can bear it.

Be sure to vote with your wallet people. If you support this idea, give Intel your money. If you don’t support what they’ve done, then you need to make sure they see this.

The “but” is always cost to
The “but” is always cost to manufacture.. (i.e. keep die size down).

However, Skylake-X’s per-core L2 cache is now 4x size (1MB vs 1/4MB), and the L3 is ‘non inclusive’ meaning it doesn’t always have the same data as the L2. This may improve IPC a little further over a standard broadwell/skylake cache setup..

Skylake generally offers
Skylake generally offers 5-10% more IPC / thread at the same clock as Ryzen (and Broadwell). Combined with the higher clocks (turbo boost 2.0 = 4.3 GHz for the 8 core.. vs. ~ 3.7 ghz all core turbo on Ryzen 7) and possibly even higher IPC from the 1MB L2 cache, the 7820x is almost certainly going to be noticeably faster than 1800X stock vs stock..

That said i wouldn’t be surprised if 1800X was still = or more power efficient per performance..

The 95w 1800x seem to have
The 95w 1800x seem to have settled at $450 (amazon) and seem to have the same base clock as the $600 140w 7820X

I believe in heavy multitasking (specially rendering) they deliver similar performance when equally clocked.

So it would be interesting if the 1800x match the 7820x in cinebench, but at the same time does it using less energy ?

But most likely the 7820x wont be compared with the $450 1800x,
but with a similarly priced 1955X X399 Ryzen (3.6ghz base 10 core)

Also the $620 6 core 6850K seem to have no replacement. If you want more then 28pcie lanes you now have to spend $1000 minimum.

So Intel dropped prices by 15% for the 6 core 28pcie model
But also introduced an 8 core 28pcie model at the same price.

It seem to me Intel had to do a lot of pricing gymnastic in this release to have the lineup make sense.

AMD will still having raw

AMD will still having raw pricing advantage going forward, yes. I think Intel is betting on single threaded performance and platform advantage for now.

I surely agree that SOME of

I surely agree that SOME of the prices seem crazy, but that $599 8c/16t will be much more compelling.

AMD is the way to go I think.

CFL should launch in August.
CFL should launch in August.