Comments on: Sigh … your Windows 10 device is probably only as secure as Microsoft’s database https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/ A Leader in PC Hardware Reviews and News Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:33:37 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71240 Thu, 31 Dec 2015 02:59:50 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71240 In reply to Tanx.

Abusive Monopolies will
Abusive Monopolies will always be ragged on, and M$ is one Abusive Monopoly! It’s too bad our elected officials are too corrupt to enforce the Abusive Monopoly laws already enacted! Apple is not trying to push its closed OS ecosystem onto any third party OEM produced PC/Laptop hardware like M$ is!

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By: Tanx https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71231 Thu, 31 Dec 2015 01:59:43 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71231 Another week, another rag on
Another week, another rag on Microsoft article. Sure you guys don’t all go home to Apple devices?

This is much ado bout nothing, much like the ‘privacy’ issue in Windows 10. Real Storm in a Teacup stuff.

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By: Jeremy Hellstrom https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71227 Wed, 30 Dec 2015 23:41:04 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71227 In reply to Coupe.

sigh, click here to see 10

sigh, click here to see 10 things you didn't know about garbage article real estate.

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By: Jeremy Hellstrom https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71226 Wed, 30 Dec 2015 23:40:11 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71226 In reply to Anonymous.

This is indeed true and the

This is indeed true and the spread of encryption for home users is a good thing, however it is valuable to know that there is another copy of your key floating out there.  I'm not saying this is good or bad, only that it is another example of the poor communication from Microsoft about the features included in Win10, some will want to delete the key, others will be glad to know they aren't borked if they lose access.

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By: Anonymous https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71224 Wed, 30 Dec 2015 22:32:32 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71224 The alternative is for you
The alternative is for you device to be totally unencrypted, so this is a net gain. For everyone. You are EXACTLY as vulnerable to Microsoft being coerced by a state actor (or a hack) as with an unencrypted drive, but you are less vulnerable to a regular everyday thief stealing your device.

Remember, this is for encrypted-out-of-the-box devices. If you have one of the Professional Windows variants and are using Bitlocker rather than Device Encryption, storing the recovery key becomes YOUR job unless you select the box to allow Microsoft to store it.

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By: Coupe https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71213 Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:22:02 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71213 Garbage sensationalist
Garbage sensationalist article.

Whenever you start a news article with sigh, it is a waste of real estate.

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By: Anonymous https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71199 Wed, 30 Dec 2015 04:03:50 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71199 Misleading title is
Misleading title is misleading.

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By: Polycrastinator https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71192 Wed, 30 Dec 2015 02:00:57 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71192 In reply to ryokurin.

Sure, but since 8.1 devices
Sure, but since 8.1 devices with SSDs that met other security and IO requirements (TPM, Secure Boot) automatically encrypted silently with Bitlocker as a security measure after you logged in with an MS account. The whole point of that Microsoft Account requirement is so the device could be recovered if the user forgot their password or some other event caused the TPM to think some interference had happened (and this can be caused by a lot in Windows, I saw it a half dozen times across Dell tablets deployed in a school district I supported). If you’re 100% certain you can move the key elsewhere and keep it available in case of disaster, fine, delete it. But I worry this freak out means well meaning geeks will delete the keys for friends and relatives and then render their data unrecoverable when something bad happens. A PC isn’t like an iPad or phone, you have to have a method of recovery, or be sure you have a really reliable backup(s).

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By: ryokurin https://pcper.com/2015/12/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/comment-page-1/#comment-71191 Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:31:00 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/sigh-your-windows-10-device-is-probably-only-as-secure-as-microsofts-database/#comment-71191 Yeah, people were outraged
Yeah, people were outraged about it in August when a blog figured it out, despite the fact that it’s happened since windows 8. It’s when you encrypt your drive with bitlocker, not if you just have a Microsoft account.

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