Comments on: VESA Introduces New Fully Open DisplayHDR Standard for LCD Displays https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/ A Leader in PC Hardware Reviews and News Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: James https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/comment-page-1/#comment-105207 Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:28:46 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/#comment-105207 In reply to cdx910.

It doesn’t seem like 10 bit
It doesn’t seem like 10 bit native panels would be that hard to do. Perhaps TN technology has some limitations that make it hard to do? I have an old panel that is 10 bit capable, but it is IPS based (dell ultra sharp U3011). If they could do 10 bit back in 2011 or so, then it doesn’t seem like it should be difficult now. It was about 1500$ new though, so it wasn’t cheap back in 2011; I bought it because I wanted 16×10 form factor and it was also the last of the CCFL displays. Most LED backlight displays I looked at had terrible color accuracy by comparison. It took them a while to get good color accuracy with LED backlights. The U3011 can use close to 200 W to achieve excellent color accuracy though, so I am kind of waiting for 4K at 120 HZ, hopefully with quantum dots as an upgrade. The power consumption on the quantum dot TVs seems quite good. It produces very narrow frequency ranges, so that translates into higher efficiency and better color accuracy.

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By: James https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/comment-page-1/#comment-105206 Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:07:17 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/#comment-105206 In reply to HEXiT.

6-bit panels are ridiculous.
6-bit panels are ridiculous. It would be nice if HDR capable panels are all at least 10 bit native. I have seen some cheap HDR TVs that sounded like they just support accepting HDR input; that is they aren’t actually an HDR capable display other than the electronics to convert it to something that the mediocre panel can display. They definitely need some standards here. I don’t know how much difference there is between a true 10 bit panel and an 8 bit panel with dithering. A 6 bit panel only has 64 possible brightness levels for a sub-pixel. I assume the laptops at Best Buy with cheap TN panels are probably 6 bit. Those look like garbage, but that might be due to other things, not just the bitness of the panel. An 8 bit panel would be 256 and a 10 bit is 1024 levels. If you are going to have a significantly higher max brightness, then limiting it to 64 levels is not a good idea.

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By: unacom https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/comment-page-1/#comment-105177 Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:00:19 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/#comment-105177 In reply to HEXiT.

Probably because 6 bit isn’t
Probably because 6 bit isn’t HDR.

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By: cdx910 https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/comment-page-1/#comment-105156 Wed, 13 Dec 2017 06:21:24 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/#comment-105156 In reply to HEXiT.

The 400, 800 and 1000 are in
The 400, 800 and 1000 are in reference to peak light output measured in cd/m2 (or nits).

The bit depth is only part of the spec. Also it is a minimum for each level and could vary giving us a DisplayHDR400 with a 12bit panel and a DisplayHDR1000 with a 10bit panel if a manufacturer so chose.

Regardless this is very exciting news.

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By: ConfusedBySomeWordings https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/comment-page-1/#comment-105150 Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:24:05 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/#comment-105150 What about 12bit and maybe
What about 12bit and maybe VESA 1200!

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By: biohazard918 https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/comment-page-1/#comment-105148 Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:16:41 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/#comment-105148 In reply to RadioActiveLobster.

Not really VESA is big
Not really VESA is big https://www.vesa.org/about-vesa/member-companies/

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By: RadioActiveLobster https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/comment-page-1/#comment-105139 Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:45:24 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/#comment-105139 https://xkcd.com/927/
May be

https://xkcd.com/927/

May be relevant…

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By: HEXiT https://pcper.com/2017/12/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/comment-page-1/#comment-105136 Wed, 13 Dec 2017 00:05:06 +0000 https://pcper.com/news/vesa-introduces-new-fully-open-displayhdr-standard-for-lcd-displays/#comment-105136 dunno why they didnt just go
dunno why they didnt just go with a basic
1000 for 10bit
800 fpr 8bit
600 for 6bit

and panels with dithering sit between with a ranking of 700 or 900

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